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autismserenity:queersplendent:ace-oppression:knightjeran:ace-oppression:ace-oppression:lesbehonestdiscourse:ace-oppression:lesbehonestdiscourse:la-lesbiana:Uhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmintersex people: *routinely have medical information, and information about their own medical histories, kept from them; are consistently lied to and about, by doctors, to force them into medical treatments designed to try to control their gender and sexuality; are subjected to genital mutilation at very young ages as part of that; are frequently both cis and hetero*these jackasses: hmmmmmm sounds fake?? lmao look at this genius saying LGBTQIA+ people can be cis AND straight. aceys strike again amiriteThe majority of intersex people believe it’s offensive to categorise them as LGBT but… go offYou looked at an acronym that included intersex people, and reacted by mocking the idea that anybody in that acronym might be cis and straight and still belong. So yeah, I will. First, you’re thinking of queer, not LGBTQIA. A lot of intersex people don’t think of themselves as being queer for being intersex, any more than they think of themselves as being trans for being intersex. About half of them are LGBQA and a lot of them are T, but that’s in addition to being intersex. But they absolutely are part of the LGBTQIA+ community, and have been for forever. As longtime intersex activist Emi Koyama puts it:“There are a couple of reasons for adding the ‘I’ to LGBT. First, intersex bodies are pathologized and erased in a way that is similar to how homosexuality has historically been treated within psychiatry. “Even though homosexuality has been officially depathologized for three decades, transgender people are still labeled as having ‘gender identity disorder’ and thus treated as something abnormal rather than a natural human variety. “From this point of view, intersex is just another sexual minority that is pathologized and treated as ‘abnormal.’“Another reason is that the surgical treatment for intersex conditions is heavily motivated by homophobia, transphobia, and misogyny. Western medicine defines ‘functional’ male and female genitalia in terms of its ability to participate in a heterosexual intercourse, rather than how much sexual enjoyment patients can achieve–which is why removing a woman’s clitoris is medically acceptable according to (mostly male and straight) doctors, as long as her vagina is deep enough to be penetrated by a penis.”And the trans and intersex communities, especially, work together all the time: Chrysalis Special Issue on Intersexuality (1997) | Intersex Society of North AmericaOne of the grand marshals of the 50th annual Pride in NYC, this year, was the first intersex person to be elected to public office in the US:NYC Pride march to honor intersex New Jersey mayorAnd WorldPride celebrated intersex filmmaker River Gallo:Meet River Gallo, The GLAAD Award-Winning Trailblazer Fusing Activism And ArtTL;DR: yeah not all intersex people want to be a part of this coalition of communities. because just like with trans people, not everybody thinks the paltry resources that allies might offer will outweigh the effort of dealing with misconceptions and shitheads. Even as a bi person, I fucking feel them, ffs.But if you’re NOT intersex, your job is to sit down and figure out how to support the most marginalized people in the community. the medical community withholds consensual surgeries and medications from trans people to control our bodies, genders, and sexualities.then it turns around and forces the same surgeries and medications on intersex people, even infants. and frequently lies to them and their families in order to do it. As a trans person married to an intersex trans person, if you’re not an ally to their community, I don’t trust you to be an ally to mine. You can’t fight for my right to bodily autonomy, in a medical system that polices bodies to try to control sex, gender, and orientation, if you’re not fighting for intersex people’s right to the same thing. This is about consent in the face of a misogynist, heterosexist, cissexist, perisexist system, and nothing else. The 2019 Intersex Inclusion Survey concludes that most intersex people DO consider themselves LGBTQIA+.75.6% of [intersex] respondents said that they do believe intersex individuals belong in the LGBTQ+ community on the basis of being intersexSMDH that’s exactly what I was looking for! I was sure somebody must have done a survey that included this. Thank you so much! intersex nb lesbian here to assert that “The majority of intersex people believe it’s offensive to categorise them as LGBT” is not just wrong, it’s something that was specifically floated in anti-aspec exclusionist circles, specifically as an adjunct to altering the original meaning of “cishets” to mean people who are not included in the community/coalition. the OP speaks to this – the existence of intersex people and our historical inclusion in the community fucks with exclusionists’ ability to classify cis and het people as definitionally not queer, so they moved to exclude us as well, ostensibly on our behalf but actually so that they could continue taking a hard-line stance against the inclusion of aspecs.like many exclusionist talking points, it’s much newer than most people think, and has from day 1 been used to talk over intersex people in order to further aspec exclusion. fuck that noise tbhyup, truth. I watched that happen, and watched them find, iirc, literally one or maybe two intersex exclusionists to throw everybody under the bus. like all exclusionists, their argument was basically, “I said so [and therefore it’s true].” and when other intersex people were like “the fuck it is?!?” they were basically like, “well now this is an intracommunity argument and LGBT people shouldn’t even talk about it.”Like, YEAH!! I’m ALL FOR not arguing about whether other groups should be in the acronym, and just fighting for them in whatever way they want, and alongside them on whatever issues overlap with us!! When can we start doing that?? Oh right, that’s not what you meant. You meant, “exclude and ignore everybody I hate, no matter what it takes.” -- source link
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