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thespectacularspider-girl:keyhollow:solarpunkartist:severelynerdysheep:keyhollow:severelynerdysheep:keyhollow:severelynerdysheep:stream:Margot Robbie Pushes Her Limits While Eating Spicy Wings | Hot Onesuurrgghhhh…Margot..I really liked you…Don’t be so fucking creepy and respect her diet choices the same way you want others to respect yours “respect her diet choices the same way you want others to respect yours“ Yeah no…This isn’t an “I’ll respect your love of Marmite if you respect my loathing of it” situation. It’s vital to recognize that these aren’t simple issues of personal life choices to respect, as it stops being a matter of personal choice when those most affected are other sentient beings. It simply ceases to be a matter of simple personal dietary choice when those dietary choices have direct victims, and in the case of choosing to consume animal flesh/milk for young/eggs, it’s a fact that other beings are being directly and needlessly victimized by being bred, kept captive, exploited, and brutally slaughtered as a result.How you style your hair, your favorite color, a banana or apple, these are personal choices that 100% should be respected. Who you choose to abuse, exploit, and brutally slaughter, however, are not. And If you still choose to support this as a consumer when it’s “possible and practicable” to avoid doing so, then no, that choice absolutely should not be respected. Just like other choices to support/contribute to such violence and cruelty when it’s possible and practical not to do so.I doubt that most people would consider it a matter of personal choices that should simply be respected when it comes to other acts that needlessly harm other sentient beings for personal pleasure, such as the dog meat trade, dog fighting, animal abuse of “pets”, bullfighting, skinning animals for fur, etc.What’s not creepy = Expresses disappointment on a personal blog at an influential public figure making a joke out of the slaughter of defenseless animals, by literally eating a big bowl of their butchered limbs as a game. What’s super creepy = making a joke out of the slaughter of defenseless animals, by literally eating a big bowl of their butchered limbs as a game.Time to roll up the sleeves I suppose.There is nothing wrong with consuming milk or eggs. The animals that produce them are domesticated, and produce far more than will ever be consumed or become chicks. Most chicken eggs go unfertalized, and unless removed, will rot and attract predators and insects that will infest the area and kill chickens/chicks. The cows must also be milked because they over produce, and without milking they will develop mastitis or other infections. It’s incredibly painful and the cows feel relief upon being milked. It’s a mutual relationship for the animals and the humans, as we protect and feed them and they produce a product for us. Of course, this goes without saying, some corporations terribly mistreat and abuse their animals and they should not be supported, which is why it’s important to support local small farms and ethical production.Same goes for meat. They live a healthy and much more comfortable life than they ever would in nature, and thus have a more comfortable death. If lions and wolves and sharks aren’t evil for fulfilling their nutritional needs, neither are we. You would never chastise an ape for eating their prey, don’t chastise a human either. Though again, some farms and slaughter houses are unethical and cruel, and it’s important to do your research and support your local small businesses that do things properly and painlessly. Or just raise and kill your own animals, like myself. I know for a fact they get the best care and the happiest lives and the most painless death, because I provide it.Nothing wrong with a dog meat trade again, as long as it’s done with the best care and death provided for the animal. The first trade should go hand in hand with the meat trade, no waste. If your going to kill an animal you should use it all. It’s a waste of a death and you aren’t properly appreciating what those creatures died to provide you with in the first place. Animal fighting provides nothing, is cruel inherently, and should be banned forever and always. No it’s pretty creepy, because you choose to phrase it in a horrible creepy way. “But it’s technically right!!” Yes, but so is claiming that vegans enjoy injecting the severed limbs and reproductive organs of organisms with they then slather in the juices from the same or similar organisms and slorp that down to injested in their own vomit. Plus plants can and do release signals that warn other plants of the damage they have suffered and attempt to summon organisms to assist, which is a pretty good piece of evidence that they know you’re eating them, and they they may feel pain. And you eat them alive, which is Uber creepy. Things have to die for life to continue. Whether it’s bacteria, fungus, plants, or animals, including humans. We are all part of the food chain, and it’s ridiculous to attempt to assign morals to nature. Get over yourself Well if we are rolling up sleeves *rolls up the sleeves of my Totoro hoodie* ~ Domesticated hens only produce so many eggs due to the fact that they are both genetically engineered to produce many more eggs than is natural and are usually subjected to near-constant lighting and fed high protein feed to increase egg production so they produce over 300 eggs a year which is massively detrimental to their health. This is not an argument for consuming eggs but is an argument against breeding these animals into existence in the first place to exploit and slaughter for profit. I mean just the simple act of continuing to bring them into existence, never mind the brutal exploitation, abuse and slaughter is an act of cruelty in itself due to how much they suffer from these abnormal bodies. ~ Also, when it comes to the actual eggs, chickens will cannibalize their own eggs and this is an incredibly important practice (especially in domestic chickens that have been bred to produce so many more eggs than natural or healthy) that gives back vital nutrients to their system lost during egg production and laying. Producing eggs involves a massive loss of lots of calcium and puts massive pressure on the hen’s body a reason why these genetically engineered hens so young aside from slaughter. Also taking a hens egg away sends the signal to her body to make a replacement. So the more eggs used for human consumption the more eggs the hens will produce which is not good for their body and health at all. Solution? Stop breeding these animals into these bodies that they suffer so greatly from because you want to eat their eggs. And if you’re looking after rescued hens leave the eggs to them to cannibalize instead of taking them away to encourage ore egg-laying. And make sure they are safe from predators which would try to kill them regardless. ~ Its actually only because of genetic manipulation via intensive breeding practices in order to maximize profit. that has resulted in dairy cows now producing so much more milk than is natural, and at the incredible detriment to their health. This, coupled with the fact these cows are required to give birth to one calf annually so are forcibly inseminated repeatedly so that they can produce such high levels of milk for 10 months of the year. Of course, the solution to this issue is not to continue doing this but to stop artificially and forcibly breeding them into existence into these genetically engineered bodies to brutally exploit and slaughter for profit.It’s also worth recognizing that issues you raise only occur both, from the living conditions these animals are kept in, their genetically engineered bodies, and the fact that they are only “milked” twice a day instead of the five to six times a day a calf would ween from her. This adds to the accumulation of milk accumulate in the udder which greatly enlarges the udder and leads to lameness in her hind legs and predisposes her to mastitis and many other serious health issues. And of course, the average dairy cow now completes less than four forced lactations before she is then brutally slaughtered because she stops being profitable either because of low milk yield, infertility or diseases caused by living conditions and the incredibly large strains forced on her body in order to produce so much milk. This is horrifically cruel. ~ There’s no such thing as “ethically produced” animal flesh, milk, or eggs as bringing an animal into existence for the sole purpose of needlessly exploiting and brutally slaughtering them in their young is not ethical under any circumstance. When it comes to animal agriculture, in all farms, regardless of the size of the farm, location, or the labels used (”free range” “organic” “grass fed” etc) animals live their too-short lives trapped in genetically engineered bodies that are ravaged by their size and forced overproduction of babies and milk till they are “spent” and are slaughtered for profit, all for needless human pleasure. Its also worth noting that many of the cruelest practices industrial factory farming takes place on smaller local farms, these include forced impregnation, stealing babies away from mothers, routine mutilations without anesthetic, murder of newborns and young animals (including using methods such as bludgeoning and maceration), horrendous living conditions, denial of important instinctive behaviors and preferences and brutal transport and slaughter conditions. And of course, these animals all end up in the same slaughterhouses at a fraction of their lifespans and there is no “ethical” way to needlessly slaughter a sentient being that doesn’t want to die. While buying from a local farm might be slightly better than buying from a factory farm, it’s still just trying to find the right way to do the wrong thing. ~ Aaahh…The “but they have it better than in nature” argument. its a weird argument but one I see often..the facts are that this isn’t an either/or situation where either the animals we needlessly farm and eat die a violent, harrowing death in nature (after a violent, traumatic life..hmm reminds me of the life of farmed animals), or they have a comparably “easy” life and a “better” death on farms. These farmed animals would never have been born in the wild in the first place as they are artificially bred in mass numbers into existence specifically to be exploited on farms for human pleasure and profit. Animal agriculture does not save them from the brutalities of nature and possible horrible death. These animals are not being rescued or saved or protected, they are bred by humans to be killed by humans without a fighting chance. This hypothetical nature scenario is a false premise and does not justify the needless breeding, exploitation and brutal slaughter of animals for food.~ @acti-veg has a great article about this here. But in short, Lions and other animals need to kill for survival, without it they would die. Humans killing animals for food is cruel and unnecessary because we know that we have no biological need to consume animal flesh, milk, eggs or honey. Other species do a lot of things we don’t do, why pick one thing wild animals do that you want to copy and disregard the rest? I doubt you would defend that same line of logic when it comes to other violent actions by saying, “yeah but animals do it in the wild” would you? ~ How do you justify needlessly taking the life of another sentient being that doesn’t want to die for your own personal pleasure, and at a fraction of their lifespan? I mean you could argue that the act of taking their life is even crueler if they have a happy life beforehand. But regardless of the fashion of the slaughter, there isn’t a justification for taking that life. It is still needlessly taking the life of a sentient being, for your own personal pleasure. If somebody killed your companion animal, I doubt you’d say “that’s fine because you did it painlessly”? Though maybe you might. But I know that most people would very much be against that. I am interested though in how you slaughter animals “painlessly”? ~ Yeah no, the exploitation of, and slaughter of other sentient beings when its avoidable is always wrong. Dog, pig, chicken, sheep, cat, horse, etc. ~ Please, tell me how it was creepy? ~ Wait..wait…are you comparing plants to animals?? You’re trying to say that the stem of a plant is the same as the butchered limb of a chicken? You are seriously trying to use the “plants feel pain? Of course plants arent living organisms, they are, just like bacteria and fungi. What they aren’t though is sentient. And it is sentience which is the issue here. Plants lack nerves or a central nervous system, brain or anything else that neuroscientists know to cause sentience. Because of this, they cant respond to stimuli in any deliberate way (what they do have are non-conscious reactions, and it’s these reactions you’re talking about). Unlike animals (sentient beings) plants absolutely lack the ability or potential to experience pain/suffering or have sentient thoughts, so there isn’t an ethical issue with eating them because of this. There is the same level of an ethical issue as someone cleaning a worktop and killing bacteria. And I’m pretty sure nobody is abstaining from cleaning their house or taking medication because they are killing bacteria in the process. Sentience: The capacity to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively. Animals = SentientPlants = Not sentientBut let’s say we lived in an alternate universe where we discovered that plants actually have something akin to what we understand as “sentience” and so could feel pain. The difference , In this case,is that we need to eat plants to survive, but we don’t have to eat animals. In fact, it’s incredibly harmful to human health. Also, more plants are used for animal flesh/milk/egg production than for plant production because the animals farmed are fed plants. So if we lived in this alternate universe it would still be better to minimize plant usage by feeding humans directly with them, rather than feeding many more plants to animals to then eat ourselves.~ Food chains help maintain natural ecosystems and natural population sizes of wild animals, and they help maintain the natural ecology of areas of the world where they exist and are fundamental to the survival of those ecosystems. What we do to animals when we forcibly artificially breed them into genetically engineered bodies they suffer so greatly in, to exploit and slaughter needlessly has nothing to do with a food chain. Nor does it resembles anything like you would see in the wild. It has nothing to do with helping to maintain healthy population sizes or maintaining the ecology of environments and is actually actively incredibly detrimental to them. What we do to these animals could not be further detached from any sense of the food chain. ~ Yes, let’s use nature as a justification for our violent actions., who needs morality when it comes to humans copying actions we see in nature! Another species does it? That’s A-okay for us as humans to also do!~ Testimonies from many former local small-time “humane” farmers here~ A great article from @acti-veg on “ethical” animal farming and another here.~ Why animal welfarism continues to fail@keyhollow Pretty much any and every anti-vegan argument you can think of has been debunked over and over, even on several dedicated sites like these:www.carnismdebunked.comwww.yourveganfallacyis.comhttp://www.godfist.com/vegansidekick/guide.phphttps://acti-veg.com/resources/arguments/Arguments Debunkedhttps://earthlinged.org/30excuses30 DAYS, 30 EXCUSES — Earthling Ed: Vegan Activist, Public Speaker & EducatorIf you can think of an argument that isn’t on there I’d be very surprised and eager to hear it. I hope you consider looking into how vegans answer these arguments we hear constantly. Everyone needs to examine this for multiple reasons: animal rights, the subsequent human rights issues brought about by animal agriculture, public health concerns, and the harmful ways it effects the environment. It’s the right thing to do. Innocent sentient beings who feel pain and don’t want to die don’t deserve to be killed for profit and fleeting, unnecessary palate pleasure when it’s also bad for our health, other humans, and the environment, while vegan alternatives already taste amazing. There’s no right way to do the wrong thing, humane slaughter is an oxymoron. No matter how nice their life or how painless and quick their death, they still were bred into existence and killed against their will with no choice in the matter when they didn’t have to be, and that’s wrong. They’re individuals, not machines, slaves, products, or commodities. They’re a someONE not a someTHING. And we need to do better. Be quiet for a minute, I’ll return and go through all of this and use unbiased scientific sources to point out your wrongs and rights, and what they mean to people that eat meat, and we’ll talk about your personification of animals, and what it means as well. I always like how vegans talk about the rights and humanity of animals, yet never consider the human cost of their diet plan.Someone pointed out in other notes that not only are those sources immensely biased, but when they see contracdictory statements and agree they are correct, they go out of their way to say “but it doesn’t matter because ethics”.Evangelical veganism is a cult. -- source link