sergeant-angels-trashcan: shipperwolf1: brunhiddensmusings: fierceawakening: guyveranimefan87: eric-
sergeant-angels-trashcan: shipperwolf1: brunhiddensmusings: fierceawakening: guyveranimefan87: eric-coldfire: eldritchgentleman: cruxofargon: the-critical-feminist: cishetwhiteoppressor: Finally, a sane celebrity who doesn’t bend the knee to feminist bullshit. Source My god I love her. I know people are gonna get salty af about this but by God she’s RIGHT. When Brad Pitt did Fight Club, he was cutting weight for every single scene to maintain his physique at 155. I’ve you’ve ever cut weight, you know how horrible that must have been. He did it because they needed a “look”. Changing Tatum said his Magic Mike body doesn’t last for more than five days. He starved down and dehydrated his already fit physique for a “look”. The male soldiers on Spartacus: Blood and Sand were eating pretty much chicken and veggies for every meal to maintain a “look”. Why is this such a big deal? Because all these characters are considered physical goals for men. These are actual unobtainable physical standards for men. Male body image issues get swept under the rug so often that some people don’t even think they exist. You want proof? Just check out that scene in Captain America: First Avenger where Cap just transformed into that beautiful beefcake of a man. Agent Carter’s actress just HAD to touch them muscles, it was completely unscripted. Chris Evans had to wear shirts so small they physically hurt, and he dislocated a shoulder during the helicopter scene in Civil War. But who cares, girls got to wet their panties watching Captain America flex. If we are talking about unrealistic physical standards of male fitness given to us by movies, I would like to mention Hugh “Wolverine” Jackman here. Yeah, he is ripped, isn’t he? Well, it is true, but to get that kind of definition, he went through 36 hour period of dehydration, which caused him to temporarily lose 10 pounds of “water weight”. Thus during the fight scene he was filming, he was a hair breadth from blacking out whole time, just to look unrealistically muscular. As he said during interview with Steven Colbert, “If You go three days without water, You will die. Then, when You are halfway there they shout ‘Roll it!” It’s the same with professional bodybuilders who get into periods of extreme fasting and dehydration to lower their fat-to-muscle ratio to inhuman levels, all in hopes of making their muscle definition a bit better. According to experts, healthy body fat percentage for a healthy male ranges from 8% to 20%, depending on height, lifestyle and numerous other variables. Fitness model and professional bodybuilder Helmut Strebl also known as “World’s Most Shredded Man” as he supposedly managed to get his body fat percentage below 5%… … But only when he partakes in competitions, since it is not humanly possible to live with such low fat percentage of one’s body for longer periods of time. I mean, yeah, he keeps a draconian training regime, as well as a very strict diet even off-season, but looks much more human then… There are documented cases of incredibly fit and muscular bodybuilders fainting on the stage in the middle of their flexing routines, as well as several who outright died, because of cardiac arrest caused by their blood becoming too thick, due to long dehydration… And let’s not forget about Muscle Dysmorphia, colloquially known as “Megarexia” or “Bigarexia”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_dysmorphia Yeah, it’s a thing, but it’s barely talked about, since it’s apparently not manly to admit to having problems like that, which also creates problems with researching this particular disorder… So… Thanks Hollywood? I had no idea that most people who looked like this are dehydrated until I read posts like this. dehydrated to the point theyre about a day away from actual organ failureokay so chris hemsworth is a absolute god of a man, but hollywood says ‘thats not good enough’ and for the thor movie he has to spend several days having the juice squeezed from his body untill he looses about a gallon of whats supposed to be him so that he can do 2 days of shooting scenes without his shirt, after which he has to have recovery time before he is hospitalized because i am not joking about ‘one day away from organ failure’thats the benchmark- look at chris hemsworth and process that he is told he isnt suitable for a shirtless scene without prepping for three days and nearly fainting real feminism acknowledges the unhealthy standards that men are held to. radfems brush them off as non-existent guys, feminism is for you, too. it’s for all of us. ok but…we’re talking about two different things here. “Objectification” and “unrealistic body standards” while related, aren’t exactly the same. Hollywood does ask unrealistic and harmful things of actors and actresses. The thing is, this is not objectification. It’s shitty and dangerous, but it’s still not objectification. Hugh Jackman and Chris Evans and Brad Pitt were not objects in those movies, in these scenes. They are active, powerful figures, and while a person might get pleasure from viewing them, that’s not the sole purpose of their appearance. Objectification is when a character or person becomes a collection of body parts, when a person is reduced to an object of sexual desire. Hugh Jackman as Wolverine and Chris Evans as Captain America are not on screen just to be sexy. Men absolutely can be objectified, but men are in no way objectified in pop culture to the extent that women are. Do an image search for perfume and cologne ads. How many headless women do you see? Legs, arms, perhaps. How many men do you see, staring in the camera while the women in the picture are gazing at the man, looking off to the side–because the women are meant to be looked at. Again. While Chris Evans, Hugh Jackman, etc, etc, can and are objectified by these movies, that’s not their role in the movies. Their characters have agency and we are meant to see them as powerful–if they happen to be nice to look at while looking powerful, that’s secondary. Female characters, particularly when they are side characters in action movies, are designed to look pretty first, and powerful second (and only if she can still be sexy while doing it) Do these movies promote unrealistic body standards for men? Absolutely. But again, in media representation, men see more diverse body types than women do. But again, this is not Natalie Dormer’s original point. This is not objectification. Unrealistic body types and unhealthy demands made of actors and actresses is not the same as being a sexy piece of furniture for the hero to win at the end of the day. The fact that this posts starts by talking about Game of Thrones is wild to me. There is no frontal male nudity in GoT, but there is plenty of female nudity. This nudity does not advance the storyline. It’s not meant to show us how powerful these women are. It’s there just to be there. There’s a post, somewhere–it may even be in the replies of this post–about how these body standards are, by and large, an extension of a male power fantasy, and that you can see this when you look at Hugh Jackman’s magazine covers for Men’s Health vs. Good Houskeeping. On Men’s Health, he’s sweaty, ripped, looks like he could kick your ass, easy. On Good Houskeeping, he’s wearing a sweater, his hair looks nice–he looks like he just put a casserole in the oven and is ready to bingewatch something with you while giving you a foot rub. Everyday men aren’t expected to look like Chris Evans and Hugh Jackman ready to rip your head off. Again, this is something media shows us. Guys can be ripped and beefy and get the girl. Guys can be nerdy and schlubby and get the girl. Guys can be okay looking and rude and get the girl. Guys can be pervy and average and get the girl. But the girl, by and large, is always the same. Skinny, conventionally attractive, moderately fashionable. She’s something to be obtained. She’s a status symbol. She wears impractical clothing because she’s not there to be believable, she’s there to be beautiful. That’s objectification. (I’ve got nothing om Magic Mike, though. I’ve never seen it but I’m willing to accept other conclusions and say it’s objectifying) Like, for fuck’s sake let’s keep talking about Hollywood’s interpretation of a male power fantasy and how heteronormative it is! Let’s talk about unrealistic body expectations and how nobody’s ever allowed to have stretch marks! Let’s make noise about how there’s more than two body types: muscled and skinny! Let’s talk about how “celebrity diets” are bullshit because most of us don’t have personal trainers or chefs! Let’s talk about being healthy instead of just looking healthy! Let’s talk about fatphobia and eating disorders–let’s talk about how toxic masculinity feeds into these unhealthy male body standards! Let’s burn bullshit beauty culture to the ground! But like, let’s just make sure we’re all talking about the same thing and using the same vocabulary first. -- source link